Letter

To the Rev. John Green (April 2, 1761)

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To the Rev. John Green
1 John Green was Dean of Lincoln, and became Bishop of Lincoln in Dec. 1761. He published pseudonymously (London, 1760), to which JW responded briefly in his letter to dated Nov. 22, 1760. See ODNB.
[Chester]
April 2, 1761

Rev. Sir,

I have no desire to dispute, least of all with one whom I believe to fear God and work righteousness . And I have no time to spare. Yet I think it my duty to write a few lines with regard to those you sent to Mr. Bennet.

2The identity of 'Mr. Bennet' is unclear (his former colleague, John Bennet, having died in 1759).

You therein say: 'If you sent me the books to inform me of an error which I had publicly advanced, pardon me if I say I know numbers who call themselves Methodists assert their assurance of salvation at the very time they wallow in sins of the deepest dye.' Permit me, sir, to speak freely. I do not doubt the fact. But 1) those who are connected with me do not call themselves Methodists. Others call them by that nickname, and they cannot help it, but I continually warn them not to pin it upon themselves. 2) We rarely use that ambiguous expression of 'Christ's righteousness imputed to us'. 3) We believe a man may be a real Christian without being 'assured of his salvation.' 4) We know no man can be assured of salvation while he lives in any sin whatever. 5) The wretches who talk in that manner are neither Methodist nor Moravians, but followers of William Cudsworth, James Relly, and their associates, who abhor us as much as they do the pope, and ten times more than they do the devil. If you oppose those, then so do I, and have done privately and publicly for these twenty years.

But you say: 'Such as do not profess this doctrine will not be affected by my sermon.' Indeed they will, for the world (as you yourself did) lump all that are called Methodists together. Consequently whatever you then said of Methodists in general falls on us as well as them, and so we are condemned for those very principles which we totally detest and abhor. A small part of the Preservative

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(had you taken the pains to read it) would have convinced you of this. 'Did you send them to convince me of some important truth? I have the New Testament.' So have I, and I have read it for above these fifty years, and for near forty with some attention. Yet I will not say that Mr. Green may not convince me of some truth which I never yet learned from it. I want every help, especially from those who strive both to preach and to live the Gospel. Yet certainly I must dissent from you or you from me wherever either conceives the other to vary from it. Some of my writings you 'have read'. But allow me to ask, Did not you read them with much prejudice or little attention? Otherwise surely you would not have termed them 'perplexing'. Very few lay obscurity or intricacy to my charge. Those who do not allow them to be true do not deny them to be plain. And if they believe me to have done any good at all by writing, they suppose it is by this very thing, by speaking on practical and experimental religion more plainly than others have done.

I quite agree we 'neither can be better men nor better Christians than by continuing members of the Church of England'. And not only her doctrines but many parts of her discipline I have adhered to at the hazard of my life. If in any point I have since varied therefrom, it was not by choice but by necessity. Judge, therefore, if they do well who throw me into the ditch, and then beat me because my clothes are dirty!

Wishing you much of the love of God in your heart and much of his presence in your labours, I remain, reverend sir,
Your affectionate brother,
John Wesley

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